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		<title>By: Pagers</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-27522</link>
		<dc:creator>Pagers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, we have to understand and accept one fundamental principle; what is more precious? Human life or Money?

There is a clear conflict in the current system. On one hand, we say that life is more precious than money; thats why doctors/hospitals are legally required to provide emergency care irrespective of the patient's financial/insurance status.

On the other hand, we let for-profit corporations/health-plans control the entire system. For corporations, money/profit is everything and no one should expect them to provide care at the cost of their profit. It means, money is more precious than life.

There is a clear conflict of fundamental principle on which our system is built. Money or life?  Without accepting one and only one, the system can not be fixed.  Just talking is not going to solve the crisis.

In every other developed country, the system is built on 'life is more precious than money'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, we have to understand and accept one fundamental principle; what is more precious? Human life or Money?</p>
<p>There is a clear conflict in the current system. On one hand, we say that life is more precious than money; thats why doctors/hospitals are legally required to provide emergency care irrespective of the patient&#8217;s financial/insurance status.</p>
<p>On the other hand, we let for-profit corporations/health-plans control the entire system. For corporations, money/profit is everything and no one should expect them to provide care at the cost of their profit. It means, money is more precious than life.</p>
<p>There is a clear conflict of fundamental principle on which our system is built. Money or life?  Without accepting one and only one, the system can not be fixed.  Just talking is not going to solve the crisis.</p>
<p>In every other developed country, the system is built on &#8216;life is more precious than money&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-27133</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, our health care system has lots of problems but there's blame enough to go around.   Insurance companies make the process unnecessarily complex or at least, fail to try to make it simpler.  Part of this is due to state regulations that require them to do certain things in certain ways -- but not the same ways in all 50 states.    However, any business other than the semi-monopolies in the communications/cable TV/Satellite TV could not survive with as little corporate attention paid to pleasing their customers as the Health Insurance companies.

That said, costs are also driven up by numerous other factors such as extremely expensive top-end care which is not easily or quickly available in most other countries but which American people have come to expect as their due whether they can individually afford it or not.  This attitude extends to unreasonable expectations of medicine in general resulting in expensive lawsuits and high liability insurance costs for doctors and hospitals even when they're in the right.  Guess who they pass those costs on to?

The pharmaceutical giants and medical equipment firms use the big profits they make here to compensate for the minimal profit margins they're permitted in most other countries.  Perhaps that is only fair though since American lawyers (and juries) are most likely to create outrageous awards for sometimes ridiculous claims simply because someone is suffering and such companies have the deep pockets to pay them.  Never mind that many reasonable medical advances have been given up due to awards based on pseudo-science given credence in the courtrooms.  (Breast implants weren't the only medical devices using silicon -- which was Not a danger).  

I wish I had a real solution, but ending greed on all sides is highly unlikely.  Nationalizing health care may solve some problems but it will replace them with others and we'll all pay the price with either increased taxes or inflation and probably with a loss of efficiency too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, our health care system has lots of problems but there&#8217;s blame enough to go around.   Insurance companies make the process unnecessarily complex or at least, fail to try to make it simpler.  Part of this is due to state regulations that require them to do certain things in certain ways &#8212; but not the same ways in all 50 states.    However, any business other than the semi-monopolies in the communications/cable TV/Satellite TV could not survive with as little corporate attention paid to pleasing their customers as the Health Insurance companies.</p>
<p>That said, costs are also driven up by numerous other factors such as extremely expensive top-end care which is not easily or quickly available in most other countries but which American people have come to expect as their due whether they can individually afford it or not.  This attitude extends to unreasonable expectations of medicine in general resulting in expensive lawsuits and high liability insurance costs for doctors and hospitals even when they&#8217;re in the right.  Guess who they pass those costs on to?</p>
<p>The pharmaceutical giants and medical equipment firms use the big profits they make here to compensate for the minimal profit margins they&#8217;re permitted in most other countries.  Perhaps that is only fair though since American lawyers (and juries) are most likely to create outrageous awards for sometimes ridiculous claims simply because someone is suffering and such companies have the deep pockets to pay them.  Never mind that many reasonable medical advances have been given up due to awards based on pseudo-science given credence in the courtrooms.  (Breast implants weren&#8217;t the only medical devices using silicon &#8212; which was Not a danger).  </p>
<p>I wish I had a real solution, but ending greed on all sides is highly unlikely.  Nationalizing health care may solve some problems but it will replace them with others and we&#8217;ll all pay the price with either increased taxes or inflation and probably with a loss of efficiency too.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-27116</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Biker.

Other developed countries do not have corporate controlled healthcare but we do here in US.  This is the only reason for the current crisis here.

Let the Govt provide an alternative and then health-plans will die on their own.  These health plans are the most inefficient companies in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Biker.</p>
<p>Other developed countries do not have corporate controlled healthcare but we do here in US.  This is the only reason for the current crisis here.</p>
<p>Let the Govt provide an alternative and then health-plans will die on their own.  These health plans are the most inefficient companies in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Biker</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-26993</link>
		<dc:creator>Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!!  
Just use common sense, you don't have to be a rocket scientist.  

Just compare our healthcare system with other developed countries.

1) US healthcare is in CRISIS and others are not.
2) We spend twice the money per person compared to others.
3) We have private health-insurance and others do not.

Does it require any further analysis of the system?  Absolutely not .  Just get rid of private health insurance and our healthcare system will be the best in the world.  We have the best doctors and medical facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!!<br />
Just use common sense, you don&#8217;t have to be a rocket scientist.  </p>
<p>Just compare our healthcare system with other developed countries.</p>
<p>1) US healthcare is in CRISIS and others are not.<br />
2) We spend twice the money per person compared to others.<br />
3) We have private health-insurance and others do not.</p>
<p>Does it require any further analysis of the system?  Absolutely not .  Just get rid of private health insurance and our healthcare system will be the best in the world.  We have the best doctors and medical facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-26879</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of this original message seems to suggest that you should sell all your belongings including your home, cars, Plasma TV, etc.......and throw the money out the window(if you still have one) for HEALTH INSURANCE...it is a complete non-sense.

Every other developed country spends only half of what we spend...yet they all have access to healthcare.  They do not forgo their TVs, cars, etc for health insurance.  Fundamental difference is we have private health insurance companies and other countries do not. 

Trash the health-plans first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of this original message seems to suggest that you should sell all your belongings including your home, cars, Plasma TV, etc&#8230;&#8230;.and throw the money out the window(if you still have one) for HEALTH INSURANCE&#8230;it is a complete non-sense.</p>
<p>Every other developed country spends only half of what we spend&#8230;yet they all have access to healthcare.  They do not forgo their TVs, cars, etc for health insurance.  Fundamental difference is we have private health insurance companies and other countries do not. </p>
<p>Trash the health-plans first.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-26874</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the constitution provide bail-out facility for Bear Stearns when it  was going belly-up because of their poor business decisions? Remember that the Government provided $30 billion of tax payer money ....unbelievable.

Private insurance can not be the solution for healthcare. Stop it ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the constitution provide bail-out facility for Bear Stearns when it  was going belly-up because of their poor business decisions? Remember that the Government provided $30 billion of tax payer money &#8230;.unbelievable.</p>
<p>Private insurance can not be the solution for healthcare. Stop it ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2008/we-hold-these-truths/#comment-26873</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised that there are people who are totally ignorant of the current system.  This system simply can not survive with a projected expense of $13000 per person per year by 2017.

Besides, there is absolutely 'no transparency' in the system.  Do you know how much a hospital will charge for any given service before you receive the service, if you are uninsured or under-insured? You will not know beforehand; when you receive the bill, it will be 1000-2000% more than what Medicare pays.  Is it reasonable?

Another point: Govt provides coverage for about 100 million people in the form of Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, VA, etc. It means the remaining 200 million people need 'private coverage' of which 50 million are uninsured and another 50 million are under-insured. it means, only about 50% have reasonable coverage.

Basically 50% of the people are left out in the current system.  You must be in your dreams to say that it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised that there are people who are totally ignorant of the current system.  This system simply can not survive with a projected expense of $13000 per person per year by 2017.</p>
<p>Besides, there is absolutely &#8216;no transparency&#8217; in the system.  Do you know how much a hospital will charge for any given service before you receive the service, if you are uninsured or under-insured? You will not know beforehand; when you receive the bill, it will be 1000-2000% more than what Medicare pays.  Is it reasonable?</p>
<p>Another point: Govt provides coverage for about 100 million people in the form of Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, VA, etc. It means the remaining 200 million people need &#8216;private coverage&#8217; of which 50 million are uninsured and another 50 million are under-insured. it means, only about 50% have reasonable coverage.</p>
<p>Basically 50% of the people are left out in the current system.  You must be in your dreams to say that it works.</p>
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