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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2009/health-care-not-a-right-ron-paul-says/comment-page-1/#comment-73943</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare is part good part service just like everything else people buy.  There&#039;s really no difference and people only perceive the difference because it&#039;s so expensive and so necessary.  This system wasn&#039;t created yesterday.  It is an ugly creature of government that grew out of years and years of tampering with the economics of healthcare.  The government started by giving a leg up to insurance companies so that more people would be forced to buy health insurance, and instituting the Raw Deal which began the socialist programs that have saddled us with an unsustainable system paid for by taxpayers.  The solution is to get the power out of the hands of the politicians and keep it with the people where it belongs.

When was the last time you went to the doctor and got any pricing information beforehand?  The vast majority of people just go, pay a small &quot;co pay&quot; and then forget about it.  That is until they get a bill in the mail for some seemingly-arbitary sum of money.  Put any other good or service in that context and it should immediately appear obvious how insanely we treat healthcare.  It&#039;s as though people believe healthcare isn&#039;t subject to the same market forces that control the price of automobiles or food or computers.  

If our healthcare goes down the drain we have no one to blame but ourselves.  It&#039;s our fault because we weren&#039;t smart enough to tell the politicians to back off when they started trampling on the system back in the 30s and nobody did anything about it.  Since then it&#039;s been ever more encroaching government to &quot;solve&quot; problems that government created.  People talk about this issue like it only just started a decade ago when it&#039;s been building for many decades.  The system we were given is not our fault, we were handed this utter mess by our predecessors but it will be our fault if we fail to fix it by slowly dismantling the entire thing and getting back to a rational system based on the unbreakable laws of economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare is part good part service just like everything else people buy.  There&#8217;s really no difference and people only perceive the difference because it&#8217;s so expensive and so necessary.  This system wasn&#8217;t created yesterday.  It is an ugly creature of government that grew out of years and years of tampering with the economics of healthcare.  The government started by giving a leg up to insurance companies so that more people would be forced to buy health insurance, and instituting the Raw Deal which began the socialist programs that have saddled us with an unsustainable system paid for by taxpayers.  The solution is to get the power out of the hands of the politicians and keep it with the people where it belongs.</p>
<p>When was the last time you went to the doctor and got any pricing information beforehand?  The vast majority of people just go, pay a small &#8220;co pay&#8221; and then forget about it.  That is until they get a bill in the mail for some seemingly-arbitary sum of money.  Put any other good or service in that context and it should immediately appear obvious how insanely we treat healthcare.  It&#8217;s as though people believe healthcare isn&#8217;t subject to the same market forces that control the price of automobiles or food or computers.  </p>
<p>If our healthcare goes down the drain we have no one to blame but ourselves.  It&#8217;s our fault because we weren&#8217;t smart enough to tell the politicians to back off when they started trampling on the system back in the 30s and nobody did anything about it.  Since then it&#8217;s been ever more encroaching government to &#8220;solve&#8221; problems that government created.  People talk about this issue like it only just started a decade ago when it&#8217;s been building for many decades.  The system we were given is not our fault, we were handed this utter mess by our predecessors but it will be our fault if we fail to fix it by slowly dismantling the entire thing and getting back to a rational system based on the unbreakable laws of economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemorrhoid Relief</title>
		<link>http://www.healthcare-blog.com/2009/health-care-not-a-right-ron-paul-says/comment-page-1/#comment-72244</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemorrhoid Relief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At present, health care is a privilege in the U.S. and not a right. Those who believe that health care should be a universal human right have an uphill battle. The number of homeless people throughout our nation suggests that we do not consider basic shelter to be a right either. The fact that some people still do not get enough to eat suggests that food too is often seen as a privilege. It becomes harder to argue that health care is a basic human right, when we do not seem to feel the same way about food or shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At present, health care is a privilege in the U.S. and not a right. Those who believe that health care should be a universal human right have an uphill battle. The number of homeless people throughout our nation suggests that we do not consider basic shelter to be a right either. The fact that some people still do not get enough to eat suggests that food too is often seen as a privilege. It becomes harder to argue that health care is a basic human right, when we do not seem to feel the same way about food or shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill (High Blood Pressure Remedy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill (High Blood Pressure Remedy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of talk and that is all it is.  The gov&#039;t is flacid.  Pro - Paul, Pro - Obama, doesn&#039;t matter.  No one is really getting what they want except those with the deepest pockets who can fund changes in gov&#039;t policy.  It isn&#039;t just health care that&#039;s broken, the whole gov&#039;t is run like a circus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of talk and that is all it is.  The gov&#8217;t is flacid.  Pro &#8211; Paul, Pro &#8211; Obama, doesn&#8217;t matter.  No one is really getting what they want except those with the deepest pockets who can fund changes in gov&#8217;t policy.  It isn&#8217;t just health care that&#8217;s broken, the whole gov&#8217;t is run like a circus.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know about Ron Paul.  But if he said he never turned away a patient when he worked in a Catholic church, I need to ask him, how big was the bill if they were uninsured.  He may not have charged them, but I know from fact that the hospital did charge them and at a much higher rate.

My husband was just in a Catholic hospital for 2 1/2 days, 24 hours on a ventilator.  He is uninsured.  Total cost just for the hospital--$27,000.00

So tell me Ron..how much did it cost the uninsured.  And have you practiced lately in a hospital?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know about Ron Paul.  But if he said he never turned away a patient when he worked in a Catholic church, I need to ask him, how big was the bill if they were uninsured.  He may not have charged them, but I know from fact that the hospital did charge them and at a much higher rate.</p>
<p>My husband was just in a Catholic hospital for 2 1/2 days, 24 hours on a ventilator.  He is uninsured.  Total cost just for the hospital&#8211;$27,000.00</p>
<p>So tell me Ron..how much did it cost the uninsured.  And have you practiced lately in a hospital?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lot of baloney. 
1.  Ron says, &quot;the most important thing we do is preserve the doctor/patient relationship, which we do not. For the past 30 years or so we’ve had a lot of government involved.  We have veterans care, we have Medicare, we have Medicaid&quot;  
What about private insurance companies that interfere with the doctor/patient relationship?  I had to leave my family doctor when my employer changed health insurance providers and my doctor wasn&#039;t a provider under the new plan.  That doesn&#039;t happen under Medicare -- no doctor is excluded.  Private insurers dictate what doctors you can see and what is covered.

2.  Ron says, &quot;People having private insurance are not all that unhappy.&quot;  Most people who file for bankruptcy are bankrupt because of medical bills -- and most of these people have health insurance!   These are very unhappy people!  

3.  Ron says, &quot;So what are we doing now or at least Obama is proposing that we turn the people that have service on insurance and make them join the governmental programs that everybody is unhappy about.&quot;
Obama is not advocating that we all join the government plan.  He just wants a government plan so that people will have a choice and so that private plans will have some real competition and incentive to reduce costs.  Right now the only thing private insurance is incentivized to do is deny coverage so they can maximize profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lot of baloney.<br />
1.  Ron says, &#8220;the most important thing we do is preserve the doctor/patient relationship, which we do not. For the past 30 years or so we’ve had a lot of government involved.  We have veterans care, we have Medicare, we have Medicaid&#8221;<br />
What about private insurance companies that interfere with the doctor/patient relationship?  I had to leave my family doctor when my employer changed health insurance providers and my doctor wasn&#8217;t a provider under the new plan.  That doesn&#8217;t happen under Medicare &#8212; no doctor is excluded.  Private insurers dictate what doctors you can see and what is covered.</p>
<p>2.  Ron says, &#8220;People having private insurance are not all that unhappy.&#8221;  Most people who file for bankruptcy are bankrupt because of medical bills &#8212; and most of these people have health insurance!   These are very unhappy people!  </p>
<p>3.  Ron says, &#8220;So what are we doing now or at least Obama is proposing that we turn the people that have service on insurance and make them join the governmental programs that everybody is unhappy about.&#8221;<br />
Obama is not advocating that we all join the government plan.  He just wants a government plan so that people will have a choice and so that private plans will have some real competition and incentive to reduce costs.  Right now the only thing private insurance is incentivized to do is deny coverage so they can maximize profits.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyMage</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyMage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron often talks about how he never turned away patients when he worked in a catholic hospital.  He also talks about how regulation works against organizations that try to offer charitable health care.  Your parable is nothing more then a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron often talks about how he never turned away patients when he worked in a catholic hospital.  He also talks about how regulation works against organizations that try to offer charitable health care.  Your parable is nothing more then a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Norris Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norris Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A parable


One day a poor pregnant woman came to Ron Paul
“Oh, wise one” cried the woman. “My husband has abandoned me  and my children for another woman. I cannot  support this child in my belly. I want to have an abortion. ”

Ron Paul gazed upon the poor woman and replied “No. Woman. The baby in your belly has a right to life. Go and have your baby and forget about an abortion”
So the woman had her baby.
The baby was born gravely sick.
It needed a doctor and expensive medical care.
So the woman returned to the Congressman
“Oh wise one. My baby is sick. But I am poor. I have no means of support and no health insurance. My child needs expensive medical care.”
Ron Paul took the the poor woman’s hands in his.
“Health care is not a right. My child. It is a good.” He reminded her . “You chose to marry an unreliable man.  You chose to be a wife and mother instead of learning a trade to support yourself. We are all responsible for our choices.  If your child is sick and you cannot afford a doctor you have no one to blame but yourself.

The child died after much suffering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A parable</p>
<p>One day a poor pregnant woman came to Ron Paul<br />
“Oh, wise one” cried the woman. “My husband has abandoned me  and my children for another woman. I cannot  support this child in my belly. I want to have an abortion. ”</p>
<p>Ron Paul gazed upon the poor woman and replied “No. Woman. The baby in your belly has a right to life. Go and have your baby and forget about an abortion”<br />
So the woman had her baby.<br />
The baby was born gravely sick.<br />
It needed a doctor and expensive medical care.<br />
So the woman returned to the Congressman<br />
“Oh wise one. My baby is sick. But I am poor. I have no means of support and no health insurance. My child needs expensive medical care.”<br />
Ron Paul took the the poor woman’s hands in his.<br />
“Health care is not a right. My child. It is a good.” He reminded her . “You chose to marry an unreliable man.  You chose to be a wife and mother instead of learning a trade to support yourself. We are all responsible for our choices.  If your child is sick and you cannot afford a doctor you have no one to blame but yourself.</p>
<p>The child died after much suffering</p>
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